I needed to ask you about capitalism’s function within the movie. Clearly, they’re eradicating these antiquities, not simply to have that reference to historical past, however they’re then promoting them on the black market. You may have that nice scene on the boat together with your sister Alba. I might love to listen to your ideas on how capitalism is available in and modifications how we work together with our personal historical past, in that it causes us to put financial values on issues as a substitute of inside values.
The film talks concerning the arrival of materialism within the deepest sense of this time period, as a result of clearly already within the Eighties this financial mannequin, primarily based on consumerism, had already gained floor that was already established. However in my view, deep down within the human soul, till the 80s, it wasn’t like that. Individuals would nonetheless speak to their washer or they’d pray to the oven in order that the bread would rise correctly. Objects have been nonetheless stuffed with an invisible thriller, even client items up till the Eighties. Then within the Eighties, all this world disappeared. Then the mannequin that’s primarily based on simply creating wealth and materials issues, and cash being the one technique to empower oneself. This type of materialism turns into deeply rooted, in order that not solely folks like this should not the dangerous ones within the society, they’re the product of society. They’re a product of the society that tells its kids there’s nothing that is invisible anymore, the whole lot is seen, and you should buy and promote something and the whole lot.
So within the film, I needed to create a picture of what capitalism is for me. And that picture is that of a bunch of canine growling at one another and combating with one another, the place the small canine and the massive canine are all the identical. There is not even that division anymore between the client and the vendor. They’re all there to shout at one another to growl at one another, throughout a bone. Arthur takes away that bone from the world of commerce, from the world of the residing, and he throws it within the water.
So positively, there is a criticism, identical to there’s in all of my films, of this world that’s made simply of issues. And there’s a need to speak concerning the invisible layer that’s in issues, and hopefully, there will be extra of a deal with that going ahead.
You’ve got talked about Agnès Varda’s “Vagabond” as an inspiration previously, so I used to be questioning if there are another filmmakers who’re ladies or movies directed by ladies from the previous or current that actually encourage you as an artist or as an individual who loves movie?
There are lots of ladies filmmakers who’re inspiring, like Agnès Varda, so it is tough to single out only one. Having stated that, there are additionally all the time too few. I want there have been much more of them. It’s about time as a result of usually ladies have a really totally different method of storytelling in comparison with males. I believe this is a bonus additionally for males, who must understand how ladies see the world. Clearly over the millennia we have now developed a unique method of telling our tales, a unique perspective on issues. I imagine it might be essential for there to be much more ladies filmmakers. I am attempting to consider one identify above all. After all, I’m very tightly linked to Jane Campion, who isn’t solely an awesome filmmaker, but additionally a buddy to me, simply the way in which Agnès Varda was. If I’ve to say one filmmaker who has deeply impressed me, and who really made me need to be free, it’s a film by Kira Muratova known as “Attending to Know the Huge, Broad World.” If I needed to single out one, it might possibly be that.